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Comment on About Me by Dad and Mom

Dad and Mom — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:38:55 +0000

(Stop Sign) So Proud of you…what a blessing God has given you. Your Mom and I Love you. DAD
PS Bob Ross paints trees.

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Comment on Getting People Behind Your Message by Paul Hickernell

Paul Hickernell — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:43:41 +0000

After 12 years in full time ministry, Paul, I have more “specific situations” then I could share. I have learned it is the nature of my specific field of ministry and the nature of my gift set. When most of your time is spent ministering on a stage you get shot a lot. Some time I will show you my sniper box. It is a compiled list of comments, e-mails, and phone calls from some of my greatest snipers. Like many pastors, not a week goes by when I don’t receive a “Loving caring suggestion form a concerned brother/sister in the Lord.” It used to hurt. But I have learned to put on filters to help me find the percent that is true and the percent that needs to be “let go.” I know what you have in mind specifically. Unfortunately, it is bigger and more general than that. Thank you though.

Comment on Getting People Behind Your Message by Paul Bruggink

Paul Bruggink — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 13:06:21 +0000

Did you by any chance have a specific situation in mind when you wrote “When someone snipes your content but they aren’t your target group you can let it go”?

Comment on What Is A Church Without A Cross? by Paul Hickernell

Paul Hickernell — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:57:04 +0000

Love your thoughts, Paul. People are very passionate about both sides of the issues. I feel if a church has a building it should be used as a blessing to the community. I do get leery of buildings becoming sacred cows. Once God took His shekinah out of the temple and indwelled the Christ-follower individually buildings became mute.

My personality leans negative. When we were looking for a place for ZJC to gather my perspective was finding a place that did not detract. Trent was looking for a structure that could enhance. He and I seem to find a nice balance in our work.

I will land where you did. Balance is very important.

Comment on What Is A Church Without A Cross? by Paul Bruggink

Paul Bruggink — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:00:52 +0000

After reading your article “Green Stop Signs in Church Marketing” on the Church Marketing Sucks website, I explored the site a bit and found the following thoughts in Comments on the article “Church Building Sucks”:

“It is possible to worship God in a gymnasium or lecture hall, because if people are truly seeking him, God will meet them there. But to worship in such architecture is to suggest that our purpose is either recreational or cerebral. We should build spaces crafted specially for a human-divine encounter with God. Our churches should help us focus our spirits on God in worship. Let our worship be a spiritual love feast, and may our banquet hall be appropriate to a King.Worship is the work of acknowledging the awesome greatness of our God. It is not passive. An architect tries to celebrate this greatness through a strategic integration of Christian symbols, works of art, and fine materials. He orders these components using the design elements of axis, symmetry, geometry, space, color, texture, proportion, scale, light, pattern, line, point, and counterpoint. His objective is to convey a sense of the majesty, glory, and presence of God.” (The Aesthetic Elevator, quoting architect Daniel Lee, May 17, 2007)

“I think this blog illustrates the confusion modern-day Christians have about who they are and what they are to be about. If the ‘church’ is the body of believers, and the purpose of believers meeting together on Sunday is for ‘worship’, then the purpose of a building is to facilitate the worship of believers. Its appeal, or lack thereof, to ‘unchurched’ people is irrelevant.
If the purpose of meeting on Sunday is evangelism, then building a ‘church campus’ is an incredibly ineffective way to accomplish this. We are to go to them, not try and entice them to come to us. We would be better off renting time in malls and theaters, or meeting in parks for this purpose – which would be closer to the model we see in the New Testament where the disciples went to the public square/marketplace to preach. Confusing worship and evangelism is one of the main sources of the kinds of ‘barriers’and ‘discomfort’ discussed on this site.” (Jeff Miller. October 12, 2007)

The purpose of the Sunday morning gathering is corporate worship. Personally, I still think the church facility should aid the worship experience. It doesn’t have to look like a European cathedral but it shouldn’t have to look like the local convention/community center either. There has to be a happy medium.

Comment on Does It Taste Great- Is It Good For Them by Paul Hickernell

Paul Hickernell — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:04:07 +0000

Dunk, I love your honesty. Thank you. The challenge is to talk to many but come across as it is one on one. Thanks for the comment. Hope all is well.

Comment on Does It Taste Great- Is It Good For Them by @DWDUNK

@DWDUNK — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 23:44:42 +0000

I think I do all right as a communicator, although I find it easier to teach a large crowd who might or might not be listening than having a conversation one on one. I probably lean more toward the raw broccoli side–or maybe too much cooked broccoli. It might be true and you might take it in if I gave you time, but sometimes I say too much and it goes right through before it can be absorbed.

Comment on What Is A Church Without A Cross? by Paul Bruggink

Paul Bruggink — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 20:57:00 +0000

That was a reference to the church at Dura Europos (in present-day Syria). It is described by Ben Witherington in his blog at http://blog.beliefnet.com/bibleandculture/2010/01....

Another old church that I am personally familiar with, having been in it, is St. Ambrose's Basilica in Milan, originally built in 379-386, by which time there were churches all over the place.

Comment on What Is A Church Without A Cross? by Paul Hickernell

Paul Hickernell — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 19:41:00 +0000

You make a great point. To an ancient roman/ jew familiar with crucifixion it might appear we wear golden guillotine's around our necks and hang nooses and electric chairs on our walls. The icons we hold so dear were death machines to them. Historical context is an interesting thing.